Warehouse 13, SyFy’s highest rated series in history, returns for its fourth season tonight, Monday, July 23rd, at 9:00 pm, and we’re delighted to have the boys of the Warehouse to talk about it. Eddie McClintock and Saul Rubinek.
Nicole: Hi guys.
Saul Rubinek: Hi.
Eddie McClintock: Hey. What’s up?
Nicole: So can you kind of talk about the artifacts we’re going to see this season?
Saul Rubinek: It’s really hilarious how you ask us the one question that we can’t answer. You know that we’re going to have to spoil everything if we start talking about this.
I can tell you this though, our show is not c, talled Giant Chasm in the Ground 13, it’s called Warehouse 13, so obviously they’re going to figure out a way to bring the Warehouse back. But we’ve had artifacts, we’ve know that there’s a downside to using them, there are always consequences and what the writers decided was that there had to be some consequences that were irrevocable. There were consequences that would be so dark that – so it that it wouldn’t just be easy.
So, “Oh, they’re dead. All right. We have an artifact for that.” “The Warehouse is gone. We have an artifact for that,” so everything becomes easy. It’s not going to be that easy. And whatever we use will have consequences for the life of this – of the characters and for the life of the series.
So that’s what I can tell you is that the use of artifacts becomes a darker and more dangerous and less takebackable thing than ever before. Would you say Eddie that’s true?
Eddie McClintock: Yes. And not necessarily that it changes the show totally, but certainly there will be fallout from the use of artifacts that we cannot take back. You know, that stay with everybody. The change, it changes everyone permanently. But from week to week you still have fun ones
Saul Rubinek: Yes.
Eddie McClintock: … and it stays light. But definitely like Saul said, we don’t want the show to become predictable, so you have to be able to know that we can’t just fix everything every time.
Nicole: How do you feel about the longer season this year?
Saul Rubinek: Well, they’re really two seasons. It’s really a real vote of confidence from the network and the studio to do that with us. That’s how we felt. I mean, it’s a little harder I would say on those of us that have kids, and Eddie is farthest away. I don’t live that far away because I’m in New York and my kids are older, so it’s a mix. A little different. My daughter is in college and I can get back. That’s the hardest thing for Eddie, right Eddie? That longer season?
Eddie McClintock: Yes. If my boys and my wife could be in Toronto with me all the time, it would be much, much easier. It’s a quality problem. I’m on a show that’s been on the air for four years now. I’m making a living as an actor in Hollywood in arguably one of the darkest times in the American economy, so I really have no complaints except Saul is the only one.
Saul Rubinek: Other than me.
Eddie McClintock: Saul’s my only complaint.
Nicole: So usually the scenes between you guys are pretty light and fun, but near the end of this season premier there’s a very dramatic scene between Pete and Arnie. What was it like doing a really heavy scene versus like what you’re normally doing?
Eddie McClintock: Well for me, it’s always great to be able to work with Saul – and unfortunately, we don’t get to do it as much as we would like. Not to blow too much smoke here for Saul, but I have such a great deal of respect for his work and the way he approaches his work, that anytime that I can be a part of that, I think it makes me a better actor and I think my work is better.
The opportunity to really do something serious with Saul – it’s those moments for me that make all the moments of tedium worthwhile. I do all the other stuff and I love the other stuff as well, but it seems like the one you’re talking about – ones that actually move me, I don’t have to work up emotions for those scenes. Saul is present; I’m there, the writing’s good, and things just happen.
Not to be too trite, but that’s the magic of what we do I guess.
Saul Rubinek: Thanks Eddie for that. I think that we’re a team. Over the last four years we’ve really become a team. We’re like a family. It’s not like we don’t have bumps with each other like any family does, but we have certainly one of the best crews in Toronto, and I know that because I’m a Toronto actor from way back and I know Toronto crews.
We’re a show that other crews envy because there’s no prima donna. There’s just hard work and a lot of fun, a lot of which is because Eddie really keeps things light and entertaining. I call it his buffoonery. But it’s true and we do have a wonderful time together.
Eddie McClintock: Why are you laughing when you say that?
Saul Rubinek: I think that you’ll find that might be a common denominator for shows that work is that when there is that team and that mutual respect and fun that’s going on and everybody’s working together, the work is fairly easy.
We’re especially blessed because Jack Kenny – our show runner is available to be on the set with us. He used to be an actor. He’s incredibly collaborative. If things don’t fit in our mouths the way that they were written on the page, things are changed. We get to improvise a little bit, and we’re extremely lucky.
When we do serious stuff together, it’s fun, it’s quick and it’s easy, and we don’t do it enough. The way the show’s tracked out this particular year, we had less to do with each other than even before, so we’re hoping that’ll change. But we have a great time together. I’m sure that’s obvious from watching the show.
Nicole: A lot of times when shows are successful, as your show is successful, I find that – the sort of the creative team, they kick it into cruise control, and there’s nothing really exciting or challenging for awhile. But your show has really ramped it up considerably in the past few episodes and looks like it’s continuing in that direction.
How exciting – how rewarding is that for you guys as actors?
Saul Rubinek: It’s an extraordinary thing. At a certain point it becomes the biggest character I’ve ever played and it’s quickly become probably the best character with the most range because of all the episodes and all the different things the writers are asking of us.
There is something that I think is called series-itis that you have to be careful of. It’s incredibly exciting. First of all the positive and I’ll tell you what the dangers are, given the fact that I’m a very old man who’s been doing this for 40 years or so.
Eddie McClintock: Very old.
Saul Rubinek: Very, very old.
What’s exciting is that the audience is connected with us. We have tremendous support from the studio and the network. It’s very rare in any actor’s career that you’re doing a show that is the Number 1 show in the history of that network. That’s rare, and we’ve held on to that since the very beginning. It’s a testament to the writing and the family that we’ve created.
And the fact that audiences I believe are watching – this is what I’m really proud of, because both Eddie and I are dads. We’re the only dad’s – or parents of the actors right now, right? Families watch this show together.
Eddie McClintock: Right.
Saul Rubinek: And I’m really proud of that. People that watch American Idol or shows like that. There are very few shows that are in this hour long category that audiences can watch with their family. There’s something for everybody over the age of 11 or so. And dads and moms and grandparents don’t get bored, and the kids are still delighted, and there’s great stuff. So that’s what makes me really proud.
The danger is when you’re doing a show you know a lot, for actors doing any series, is that the test is not how quickly the crew can get home and how quickly you can do things, although we do want to do that. Is you really have to keep challenging yourself in a series. You have to keep things alive.
Nicole: Saul, you’re going to work with Brent Spinner again this year.
Saul Rubinek: Yes. Yes, it was great.
Nicole: It’s an adversarial thing again isn’t it Saul? You’re kind of like the good guy this time and Brent’s kind of like the not-so-good guy.
Saul Rubinek: Yes. I’m not going to tell you exactly what happens, but it does – the whole nemesis thing was great. We’ve even put some clues in for our fans that relate to us having done The Most Toys. Some lines of dialog that suggest that we’ve worked together before, so that’s fun. It’ll be fun for fans to figure out.
It was a great season for me because I got to work a lot with Brent. We got to renew our friendship because we live in different cities now. And we started off actually in the theater together. We did a play in New York together in 1979, and the reunion was when we did the Star Trek TNG was in ’89. It was ten years after that and here we are, wow, 22 years after that. It was awesome. We had a great time.
Eddie McClintock: When you did the play in ’79, was that by candlelight?
Saul Rubinek: Thanks Eddie. Yes, gaslight.
Nicole: Do you have a favorite gadget or artifact? And if you could invent one, what would it be?
Eddie McClintock: My favorite artifact has to be Abe Lincoln’s hat. When Pete put it on he had an uncontrollable urge to free Mrs. Fredrick. I just thought that was…
Saul Rubinek: It was hilarious.
Eddie McClintock: …brilliant and I loved the fact that we can say things like that without people freaking out about it. Because we’re able to show that we come from a good place. That gives me hope – in humanity.
If I had to create an artifact, I’ve always said that it would be Janice Joplin’s back stage pass from Woodstock. The holder of the artifact could travel through time to go to any concert that has ever been. I could go to see the Doors and Black Sabbath, and Led Zeppelin, and all the bands that my dad turned me on to when I was a little kid but I was never old enough to go to the shows.
Saul Rubinek: That’d be a cool one. That would be really good.
I’ve said the same thing for a couple of seasons, which is that I want to have an artifact that actually tells the true numbers of the audience Nielsen ratings that we’re actually getting, because I can tell you that it’s probably three times what they’re saying it is because otherwise, the advertisers would have to pay a lot more.
Nicole: Eddie, I know that you’re an artist and I enjoyed your work on the Puscifer album.
Eddie McClintock: Oh, cool. Are you a fan?
Nicole: I am a fan. I love them. Maynard is amazing. He is a God.
Eddie McClintock: Look in the – if you have the hard copy of the “V” is For Vagina, if you look in the – where the CD goes into the sleeve there’s a little hidden message in there.
Nicole: Oh, I’ll have to pull that out and check it out.
Eddie McClintock: That no one knows about. All right.
Nicole: Well this past year there was a Warehouse 13 comic book that came out. Would you ever have any interest in working on a comic based on the show?
Eddie McClintock: Yes. That would be the day that I actually saw myself as a comic book character, that’s a dream come true. That’s just another tick off the bucket list for me.
I was a huge Marvel Comics fan as a kid. I loved The Hulk and I was a big Spiderman fan and Fantastic Four. So to see myself as a comic book character, how cool is that? And now they just turned Pete into a statuette. QMX created a statuette.
So – and Saul’s next. Artie’s next.
Saul Rubinek: Yes.
Eddie McClintock: So yes, absolutely. I would love to collaborate on something like that.
Special thanks to Saul and Eddie for taking the time out to talk with us an answer all our questions! And remember….
WAREHOUSE 13 RETURNS TONIGHT ON SYFY AT 9PM.